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All right, folks, we are at the hour.
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So let's get this thing started, shall we?
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First thing is first need to ask you
the very cliche thing.
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Can everyone see and hear me OK?
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Give me a thumbs up
if you can so I be able to make sure.
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OK, you have a thumbs up. Wonderful.
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Well, everybody,
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first and foremost, thank you
for taking the time out of your busy day.
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To come to this presentation.
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If you don't know who I am,
my name is Dr. Luke Hobson.
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I'm a senior instructional designer
and program manager over at MIT.
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I also make a lot of content
on the Internet, all about instructional
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design, blog, a podcast
and a YouTube channel, because my passion
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is instructional design I absolutely love
what it is that I do for a living.
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And being able to share more
about these experiences with folks
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like you has been something
that has been so cool
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and is still the most so much joy
to be able to do this.
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Over the last couple of years,
even I love instructional design so much.
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I actually wrote a book about it
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called What I Wish I Knew before
becoming an instructional designer.
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And this book was basically like,
If you and I were in a coffee shop
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and you said to me,
Hey Luke, I'm thinking about becoming
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an instructional designer,
what do I need to know?
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Is there anything I need to look out for?
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What's something that you wish
that you knew
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about before going over into this field?
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And that is exactly what you're going
to be hearing about today.
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This is going to be essentially
a crash course presentation,
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all about a summary of the book,
if you will.
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Just to instill into you
as much information as I possibly can.
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So for those of you
transitioning over into this field,
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or perhaps you already are
an instructional designer looking to learn
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from a different type of perspective,
all are welcome into this presentation.
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So, folks, what we are going to do
is that because I have lots of content,
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but I want to be able to share with you
today.
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What I'd ask
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is that if you do have questions,
we're going to save that for the end.
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And because already there's
something of you already on this call
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what I'd ask
is that you hold on to your question
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and then at the end
we'll have time for our chat.
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And then if you want to just plug
and play your question inside of a chat,
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I'll do like a rapid fire round
where I'm going to try to answer
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as many questions as I can
with as much time that we do have.
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So that is all I ask, but before we get
started, I have a question for all of you.
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Go into the chat for me once again
real quick.
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Did you know about instructional design
before the pandemic?
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Before 20. 20.
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Give me a yes or give me a no.
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I'm actually seeing quite a
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good mixture of yes and no is
and that is so interesting.
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So whenever I talk to somebody
about instructional design, oftentimes
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what I'm going to hear
is that somebody will say
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that they just heard about this field.
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It seems so new and exciting
and they can't wait to learn more
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about instructional design.
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And yes, of course it is exciting.
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It is awesome.
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I can't wait for you to learn more
about instructional design.
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But let me be clear, it is not new.
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Actually, we can trace our origins
back to World War Two.
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We can thank the University of Florida
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and the United States Army
for trying to be able to figure out
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what is a better way for us to be able
to train our troops in a cohesive manner.
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And then from this,
all of the learning theorists
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you come to know
and love with Benjamin Blum,
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probably one of the most significant ones
you've probably heard of before.
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But eventually moving on to Skinner,
John Merrow, and many of the other
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famous names
that we know of today started to emerge.
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Fast forward into the eighties,
the first ever type of training a computer
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based program was developed called Plato
and this is when we first started
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to be able to have training go more
into this digital type of online world.
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Fast forward a number
a couple of years from there
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mean all of a sudden it was impossible
not to hear a commercial online talking
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about going back to school, whether it's
the University of Phenix Tech.
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All of a sudden,
when you were talking to someone
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and they said, Oh,
I'm going back for my master's
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and my bachelor's and I'm doing it online,
it became a normal part of conversation.
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Only now in the year of 20, 22 and a have
some schools have hundreds
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of thousands of students
enrolled into their online programs.
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And now this leads us into this
very interesting time
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but essentially
I am just dubbing as the ID boom because
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every single organization I can think of
is hiring for an instructional designer
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and is extremely interesting
to see how rapidly our field has evolved.
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We've just the last couple of years
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so of course if I'm going to be talking
about the field of instructional design,
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the very first thing
but I want to be able to share with you
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all is talking about the pros
and the cons of instructional design.
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This is the thing, but I wish that someone
had told me early on because of course
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I was captivated by the fact of like,
what is this field?
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What is this job?
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I can actually get paid for designing
the learning experience for folks.
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Like, that's a real thing.
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And of course, come to find out, it was,
but of course it is a job.
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So I want to be able to give you
a realistic perspective
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about what I have encountered
over the fields and in my career.
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Not trying to dissuade anybody from
becoming an ID but just want to make sure.
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But you know, a little bit
more about everything as well.
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First and foremost,
the biggest pro in my opinion,
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is that instructional design,
I would actually call it a form of arts,
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and that's because of the fact
that your creative opportunities
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are endless it is so interesting
if you are thinking about
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if you are somebody
who is a creative thinker, if you like
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problem solving,
if you like putting together puzzles
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and you love really being able
to actually get paid
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for doing this for a living,
instructional design is for you.
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What I have found
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so fascinating is that while of course,
we do have guidelines for best practices
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and how to do things
as far as for with developing effective
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trainings and rubrics and syllabi
and all these other different things,
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whether you're coming from this
with the higher ed perspective, corporate
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or for many other other different types
of sectors,
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there's also really not some form
of golden rule to say that
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you should really be using scenario based
learning at this point in time or project
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based learning here or over in this part
of the overall course or training.
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A simulation would really be effective.
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It is very much up to you as a designer
and working together with your subject
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matter expert to be able to determine
how exactly everything is going to go.
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Now, what's so cool about
this is why I call it a form of art.
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Is that because of you, your own
type of personality, your experiences,
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they are going to be embedded
into the product.
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So the course, the training, the program,
the workshop, the webinar, the residency,
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the summit, the whatever you are
designing is going to have elements of you
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and that's
what makes something so special.
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And what other job is there that exists.
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We are going to be mapping out
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the entire learning experience from starts
and then all the way.
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And so the finish,
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if you are able to actually think about it
like a map and trying to be able
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to pinpoint what our students and
our learners are going to be experiencing,
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within every single page,
every section, every click.
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It is so fascinating to be able to think
about how we are going to help people
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as far as for achieving
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the goals that we set what problems are
we trying to solve with education?
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And of course,
how are we going to guide them there?
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By mapping out
this type of learning journey
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and what exactly are you going
to do to make that happen?
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Will you be using presentations
or capstone or peer reviewed activities
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or case studies or simulations
and the list goes on and on and on
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with different forms
of assessments, activities,
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and other different types
of learning techniques
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that you can use to really
wow the students, to wow the learners
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and to be able to have an overall
incredible learning experience.
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The next part to me is that space
are some incredibly
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powerful
allies that you want on your team.
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Now, when I say space,
when I'm referring to our subject matter
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experts, these are the people
who we partner with together.
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In order to develop our products.
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And for SMEs in particular,
we know that there is a kind of like
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negative misconception out there.
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For some people, they're like, Oh, snails
are the worst and don't get me wrong,
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we all have a horror story
or two of working with somebody
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who wasn't great to work with,
but that is also just human beings.
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And I can confidently say from being able
to develop everything over my career,
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I've only really had to see that it is
absolutely not pleasant to work with.
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Other than that,
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most of the time they are wonderful
and incredible people to work with.
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And if you think about it,
and what other world
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do you have the opportunity to learn from
someone who is an expert in their craft,
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who is dedicated
and developed time, energy and resources
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and everything of a sort
into what it is that they do.
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And you get to learn from this person,
you get to work with them,
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and of course you get to add them
over into your network.
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This is going to be a person
who potentially can reach out to you
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as far as for with assistance
or questions or guidance.
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And if you do something as far as you're
making an incredible working relationship
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with this person, well,
they're going to stick around
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and they're actually going
to become your champions.
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It is so funny to hear we're working with
some of this BS from over the years
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that they're going to go
and tell other people that we work with
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as far as we're saying that, like,
oh, yeah,
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I know we develop something
awesome together.
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You should really look into this
because I know that him and his team
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can help you out too.
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And if you were able to do this
and make champions with these people,
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more opportunities are absolutely going
to come your way
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from an organizational standpoint,
from more projects
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and of course, from
you as an individual as well.
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And last but not
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least, you're always learning
always, always, always learning.
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If you are somebody
who watches the History Channel for fun,
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if you first heard about Bitcoin
and you started going down a rabbit hole
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for 30 minutes of what the heck is this
and how am I able to invest in this?
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What is it that I do?
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If you do this, love to learn.
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Instructional design
is absolutely for you.
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Some of the key things that you're going
to be learning
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about project management,
networking, managing a budget, leadership
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training, onboarding, multimedia skills,
the list goes on and on and on.
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You are able to absolutely diversify
how much you are going to learn
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and of course how it is going to help you
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not only within an instructional design
role, but I would argue too.
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But these skills could apply
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to whatever it is
that you want to do from here on out
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with the rest of your career.
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These are absolutely going
to become essential.
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So now let's talk about the cons
once again.
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I am not trying to dissuade anybody.
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This is just a form of my experience,
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my overall perspectives
about the negative side of a house.
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When it comes to instructional design,
you may absolutely see one of my cons,
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by the way, and say like, No, actually
I like that, which is entirely possible.
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F.y.i but these are my cons.
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The first is the schedule and stability.
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I remember reading a blog post
a long time ago and the very first pro
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that the person listed out as far
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as for why you should become
an instructional designer
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is that you will always have
a normal nine to five job.
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And I read that and I was like, Well,
I'm doing something wrong
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because I have never,
ever, ever had a normal nine to five job.
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If the person tells me that they work
best in the evenings,
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I'm working in the evenings,
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if they tell me
that they're working early in the morning,
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well then, hey, guess what?
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I'm going to do my best
to match them early on in the morning
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and trying to be able
to think about this too.
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As far as for if you were working
on several projects over the year,
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there's many projects
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that I literally have right now
where some are just kicking off,
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some are kind of in the middle
and some are closer towards the end.
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So because of that, my projects
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really do feel like they are constantly up
and down and ebbs and flows.
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And for someone who likes to keep things
as cool collected
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and non stop at traditional nine to five,
I have yet really to experience that.
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The everything that I found
to be kind of odd.
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I've read about how some folks are like,
Oh, summer must be your downtime
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because you work in education.
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Like, nope, it's the exact opposite.
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Summer is actually my busiest by far
because my subject matter experts,
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my professors, my faculty members,
they have time downtime during the summer,
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so of course they want to be able
to work on their projects over the summer.
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So instead I am kind of slammed
when it comes to this time frame.
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The next is change.
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Instructional designers are change agents.
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We are fantastic. When it comes to change.
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It doesn't mean, though, that we like it.
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It's more about something
that we have to do.
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When I think about my communication style,
I am constantly communicating
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with many different types of stakeholders,
and the way but I'm
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communicating with them
is absolutely going to be different.
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For instance,
if I'm talking to a subject matter expert,
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that's going to be different
compared to myself, talking
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to, let's say, marketing for someone
trying to promote the products
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or the advising team of being able
to coach people through it.
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As far as or with more of a maintenance
and a success rate type of an operation.
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So is this a lot of different forms
of communication
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and talking with many different
stakeholders all at once?
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And then of course, by doing that,
you constantly have a different type
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of mindset each day for the project,
but just kicked off.
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I have to go into this type of research
or mode.
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I'm doing everything
as far as with analysis
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and talking with the marketing team
and figuring out who is a target audience,
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what they should overall
look like for something that's more
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towards the end of the entire product
development lifecycle.
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Well, then this is more of me
going through things as like a Q tester
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and a reviewer just to make sure
that everything does look perfect
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and that we are ready and good to go
when it comes to launch.
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Time have been last
but absolutely not least,
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which is so strange
is that I have found over the years
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that this situation
kind of keeps on happening
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where I find myself
being the middle person.
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I am stuck between two parties
who are disagreeing with one another,
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and it's up to me
to be the one to negotiate the peace
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treaty
to make sure that everybody is happy.
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So let me give you an example.
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Let's say that you were developing
an MBA program for a university.
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You've been assigned to work
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with numerous subject matter experts
who are both trainers and professors.
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They've done these live courses before.
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And they're telling you
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the biggest hit about their courses
is that they use a simulation.
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It's what everybody raves about.
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And they tell you that if we can use this
for this brand new online MBA,
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you absolutely need to do this.
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And then, of course, you're like,
all right, let me go check it out.
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You look up the product, you're vetted
you'll find out.
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Yeah, the simulation, it's awesome.
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We should absolutely use this.
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You have a ton of different ideas
about what you can do with that.
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But you look at the price tag and you're
like, Oh, ooh, that's kind of expensive.
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Like, I don't know
if we can actually make this work.
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Well, let me go talk with my director
and my dean and yeah, let's see,
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maybe there's room in the budget.
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So you go talk to the director
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and the dean, and you present your case
and you get an absolute hard no.
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And they tell you there's no way
you need to go back to your subject
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matter experts
and see if there's any other alternative.
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You say, OK, and you go back to this maze
and tell them and immediately
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they are completely turned off and say,
absolutely not.
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It's either this or nothing.
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And if we don't do that,
that's a huge problem.
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So who ends up solving that problem?
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Well, unfortunately, it's
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the instructional designer,
and you need to be able to figure it out.
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And while this is certainly
a very rare case,
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I can only think of about maybe four times
this has happened where it's really,
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really kind of scary
within my instructional design career.
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But it has happened.
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And as somebody who likes
everyone else to be happy,
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I have found myself trying to become
the negotiator, the problem solver,
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and hoping that we can work
out everything in the end.
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And then the
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other area is not really a pro, it's
not really a con.
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So I guess I'll call it like an in-between
now what this in-between
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is, is I'm calling it as in
that's not in my job description.
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Now, what that means is that you are
working as an instructional designer
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and you find an idea and you're like,
We need to do this.
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This is going to make the product,
the learning experience incredible.
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We have to do this.
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So you go into your team meeting
and you bring up the idea and say,
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Hey, we should do this.
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And they say, Great, can't
wait for you to get started.
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And you're like,
Wait, no, no, that wasn't the point.
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I wasn't trying to just throw the idea out
to give myself more work.
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It was that
we should work on it together now.
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Like, Nope, it's all you.
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You're like, Yay!
That's what's going to happen.
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OK, I guess I'm going to do this now.
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This has happened to me
multiple times throughout my career.
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I'm going to pitch an idea,
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and I feel like someone is more qualified
for me to be able to do this.
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And then I look around the room
at the team and I'm like,
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Oh no, by default
I think it might actually be me now.
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This happened to me
for a couple of variety of things,
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but overall with webinars
and definitely for podcasts,
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what I do for my courses,
my trainings, my programs
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and everything else that I design,
I always do a pilot program.
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I want to be able to get learner feedback
at the end of every single week
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from a quantitative perspective,
by having a survey, even following up
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with a qualitative phase and making sure
that I'm doing focus groups and interviews
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and just to learn more
about what they were talking about.
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And what I found from doing this
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sometimes is a very interesting
and revealing thing.
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And one of them is that I kept hearing
from people is that they want to be more
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involved in the course,
but they didn't have time.
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My go, OK, what on earth does that mean?
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I'm like, Do you want more activities now?
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OK, how about more exercises now?
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Like, OK, what what can I possibly do
to make you feel more involved
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but somehow not add more to your plate?
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And as we kept on talking,
finally I realized
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time, I need to dove into that further.
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And I was just like,
So you want to be involved,
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but you don't have time.
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Where do you have the time
during your day to be more involved?
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And then that's when I heard from people
of, oh, the commute, the ride to work.
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I have an hour going to you and back
every day.
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You can give me something in that time
frame.
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I'll do it.
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OK, so what you're telling me
is if I make podcast recourses,
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would you actually listen?
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I have no idea.
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They said yes, my OK, well, guess I'm
going to figure out how to do this.
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So thus
I start making podcasts for our courses.
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And I did this for a leadership program
for m.i.t.
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And it was absolutely crazy to be able
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to figure out first and foremost
how to make a podcast, how to do it well.
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But i found by reaching out to the
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multimedia team,
they had some extra types of pieces
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of content from interviews that simply
we couldn't add over into the course.
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It would have been overkill
and way too much content.
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So I was able to take these
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interview files
and then myself, i acted as the narrator
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telling a story
and weaving things together
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and putting this into the appropriate week
for every part of the program.
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I launched it out into the world
and basically cross my fingers
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and toes and said, wow,
i really hope that this works.
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And I found out
not only through downloads and the reviews
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that people were enjoying it,
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but I also saw too
within the discussion boards
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that people were going
into the discussion board
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and there were like, Hey, when's the next
episode of the podcast coming out?
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It's like, Oh no, I'm done.
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I did not plan on making this part
of my full time job.
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I don't have more,
but I really do hope that you enjoy this.
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So once again, if this was me
simply raising my hand, if an idea, hoping
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and praying that maybe someone is actually
going to like it and it did work out.
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So for a pro, yeah, this was cool.
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I developed a brand new skill
set before this.
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I did not have much experience
of making podcasts for courses,
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so that was really interesting.
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A con, nothing at all came off of my plate
and I had to essentially do this
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after work
in order to effectively figure out how
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I was going to go all about this.
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So the next thing that I really wish
that someone had told me about
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was actually how to explain
the instructional design role,
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which is so interesting because I first
heard about instructional design back
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in 2013 from networking with everybody
when I worked at a primarily
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online university, and I was so curious
to see what everyone's jobs were,
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I had no idea all the titles
that mean anything to me back then.
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And I stumbled upon one friend of mine
who was an instructional designer,
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and I was like,
Hey, what is it that you do?
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It's like, Oh, well,
you know how we have our online courses?
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It's like, Well, yeah, I was like, Well,
somebody has to design those
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and work with the professors
in order to make that happen.
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And that's what I do.
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It really.
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I was like,
That's how you get paid to do that?
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Yeah, like, OK, well,
how do I get this job?
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So that became this mission
to become an instructional designer.
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So I had this idea in my head
that everyone must know
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what instructional design is, and that was
until I became an instructional designer
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and I introduced myself
inside of every kickoff call
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for every project,
and the exact same thing would happen.
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We had all these different members
inside of this project, kickoff call,
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and there would be someone from marketing,
someone from sales, a subject
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matter expert,
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and somebody who was running the course
of a training or whatever it was.
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And as they would go around the room and
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introduce themselves and say their title,
everyone seemed to nod in agreement
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as far as we're saying that they know,
they understand why it is
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that these people do for a living.
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And then of course, it comes to me
and I'm like, I'm Luke,
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I'm an instructional designer.
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Got a lot of blank looks of like,
what's instructional design make?
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Oh, OK.
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Apparently I need to find a better way
to be able to properly introduce myself.
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Now, while I was doing this, I was also
trying to be a little bit clever
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and figure out
what can I bring to the table
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when I first start to introduce myself.
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I was also told,
just call myself the learning experts.
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Now, for me, working at higher
ed saying that I'm a learning expert
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and working with faculty
who have been teaching for ten, 20, 30,
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40 years are like, Yeah, so are we.
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So what is it that you do?
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And I was thinking about and I was like,
You know what my edge is?
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The fact that I have been involved within
the online space since basically 2006.
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So what I started to say
when you can absolutely take my script
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by the way, and modify it, edit it
what you will, but it's talk about
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how I understand how people learn online
using this knowledge.
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I partner with somebody like yourself,
like a subject matter expert.
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I take what you know
and I combine it with what I know
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about how to create a meaningful
learning experience.
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Now by being able to actually do this
was then going to happen
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is that we are focusing on
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making sure that the learning experience
and the ask of what people are doing
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is going to be crystal
clear and transparent
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so people know exactly why
we are asking them to do something
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and they can see how they're going
to be able to hit these goals.
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And we are going to be doing this
by developing curricula,
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resources of materials that align a link
to everything across the board.
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When I start to introduce myself that way,
while some people just basically said,
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Oh, you're the online learning expert guy,
I'm like, Oh, well,
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I guess that's a part of it.
But no, I do more.
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But at least they started to give me
a chance and I was able to explain myself
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and kind of show
what it is that I can really do over time.
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And when you think about it,
I can also understand why
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it might be so confusing,
because within us, within this field,
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we know that instructional designers
wear many, many hats
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we are the learning experts,
we are the researchers,
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we are the technologists,
we are the project managers.
451
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,720
But also most importantly,
we are really tionship managers.
452
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,720
Because if you do not have an established
and incredible working relationship
453
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,400
with somebody, your project is quickly
going to fall apart.
454
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:07,080
So that brings me to the next thing
that I wish I knew was how to work with
455
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,600
subject matter experts and I would argue
that was to tell you anything.
456
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,080
This very well could have been
the number one thing I said in this entire
457
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,240
webinar could have been literally
just how do you work with other people?
458
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,800
How do you influence,
how do you persuade how to negotiate?
459
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,200
What do you do when someone else
is the key decision maker
460
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,920
and you have to work with them?
461
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,280
They don't report to you,
you don't report to them, but
462
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,560
you need to be able to find common ground
and figure out how to work together.
463
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,800
So what is it exactly that you're going
to be able to do now with this process?
464
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,920
The biggest thing, too, as well, is that
this must be an equal partnership.
465
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,960
There has to be an equal voice
in the design process.
466
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,680
If you have ever seen some courses
that were clearly 90% of a semi
467
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,200
and let's say
10% of the instructional designer,
468
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,760
it is pretty clear
when it's incredibly content heavy.
469
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,240
On the flip side,
if it's 90% the instructional designer
470
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:09,320
and 10% the semi, well then it's not going
to be as effective as possible.
471
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,360
So you want this equal type of balance,
this type
472
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,640
of a 5050 split.
473
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,840
So what do you do?
474
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,120
How do you actually establish these good
common grounds right from the beginning?
475
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,520
My first tip for you
is to actually use a strategy
476
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,560
which is simply known as Google. Yes.
477
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Researching people before you meet them
478
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,000
is incredibly,
incredibly effective and it's so simple
479
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,840
but I found just by googling
somebody, you are looking for things
480
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,600
such as with their education
481
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,440
articles, blogs, papers,
LinkedIn, YouTube courses, interviews,
482
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,880
press releases, accomplishments, awards,
483
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,120
anything that this person has done,
you are trying to find their passions.
484
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,320
You are trying to learn more about them.
485
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,840
So then that way, when you go and actually
meet them for the very first time,
486
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,720
you can actually see this
and you can try to make it a reality
487
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,520
in order to really be able
to create an incredible relationship.
488
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,560
So I'll give you an example
about how I have actually done this,
489
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,880
because I definitely for five years, all
I was trying to do was basically wing it.
490
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:21,240
I would go to these meetings and I'm like,
Oh, maybe this person
491
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320
will just like me
if I show them I'm working really hard.
492
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,760
And yeah,
that really didn't work out so well.
493
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,920
So finally,
I was absolutely sick and tired of this
494
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,040
and I was like, Now you know what?
495
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,600
I am going to conduct so much research,
I am going to figure this out.
496
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:36,000
So let me see, how am I going to do this?
497
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,200
And this is essentially what I did
is that I went onto Google
498
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,040
and I was assigned to work with a me
all about business strategies
499
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,480
incredibly vague.
500
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,600
I have no idea what direction
this program is going to be going into,
501
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,320
but I found this meme on LinkedIn
from LinkedIn.
502
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,640
I actually saw it as personal website
was listed inside of the featured page.
503
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,920
From there I was able to dove on in and
I saw that he had numerous blog postings.
504
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,320
There were all about his thoughts around
strategy and his tips and his techniques.
505
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600
All of a sudden I was like,
Oh my gosh, thank you.
506
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,640
I now know what I'm going to do.
507
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,360
So I read
and I downloaded every single blog,
508
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,800
and when I was trying to do is to be able
to pick up on the terminology.
509
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,280
I was trying to understand
more about his perspectives
510
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,680
and where he was coming from,
what was his mindset?
511
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,440
What he was writing
was different types of blogs
512
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,680
so then when I met him
and we did the kickoff call
513
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,960
and I actually got to introduce myself,
say, Hey, I'm looking at designer
514
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,800
and blah, blah, blah, I could tell
that he was starting to size me up.
515
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,720
He was looking at me and same thing.
516
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,960
I was just like, Why is he on the project?
517
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Do I really need him?
518
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,080
I was starting to get that look from him,
but then the minute he started
519
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:49,280
talk about business strategies and he said
one of the key terms that I remembered
520
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,440
from his blog, I was just like, haha,
now I need to jump on in.
521
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,240
And as soon as he said
that I was just like,
522
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,720
Oh, I know exactly what that word
in definition means.
523
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,880
I read your latest blog
524
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,920
like you.
525
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,000
You read my blog?
526
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,720
Oh yeah. I read the last three of them.
527
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,000
They were really insightful.
528
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,680
No, you didn't.
529
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,680
Oh, like, no, no, I didn't.
530
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,960
I actually showed him my notes and I said,
I looked at everything.
531
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,960
You had so many really interesting ideas
I have a couple of ideas of my own
532
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,160
and how we can take these and how we can
transform them into an online way.
533
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,280
But I know what learners are really going
to enjoy after that.
534
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,320
It was incredibly simple
to be able to work together.
535
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080
We essentially jumped several steps
ahead of time,
536
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,920
and that's how we were able
to start things off on the right foot.
537
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,760
And they were pretty much perfect
for going forwards, of being able
538
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,720
to actually make this type
of an online course.
539
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Now, after that, though,
let's say the research is done.
540
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200
The other thing,
but I like to really be able to do
541
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,040
and dove on in
is that I essentially conduct
542
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,880
interviews with subject matter experts,
which is kind of funny.
543
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,800
So let me explain a bit more about that,
is that over the years
544
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,560
I have worked with many instructional
designers on the same projects
545
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,840
for some better like really huge
we need to have maybe two or three
546
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,880
instructional designers at the same time
working on the same thing.
547
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,840
And from being there, sometimes I was just
there to be a helping hand.
548
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Essentially, I was kind of like the junior
instructional designer,
549
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,240
and I was listening to how the other
instructional designers went about
550
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,720
with everything and wow,
do we do things very, very differently?
551
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360
So as soon as I started to recognize that,
I was like,
552
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,280
I need to figure out if they have worked
553
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,400
with instructional designer before,
but also what were their styles.
554
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,960
So I began to start asking this question
555
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160
Have you worked
with an instructional designer before?
556
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,520
If yes.
557
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,000
And these are the three little words
558
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,920
that you are going to be saying
is Tell me more.
559
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,880
Why are you saying tell me more?
560
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Because you want to know about what
their past experiences were like working
561
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,240
with other instructional designers.
562
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,840
And you can get so much information
just by asking open ended questions
563
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,440
and being able to keep on
stringing along the conversation.
564
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,200
So something like this as an example,
let's say you start working with me
565
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,080
and you say, Oh, I heard that you worked
566
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280
with another instructional designer
before. Is that true?
567
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560
Oh, yes. I actually worked with Tara.
568
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,880
We worked in our data science
program together.
569
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,120
It was great.
570
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Awesome. Tell me more.
571
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,920
What made that grade for you?
572
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,480
Oh, we did this really weird thing
called course mapping.
573
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280
I've never actually seen that before,
but it's really interesting.
574
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,480
It helped me to gain a full perspective
of that.
575
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,440
Oh, fantastic. Four course mappings.
576
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,000
You use something like Google Sheets?
577
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Yeah, that's what we use.
578
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,240
Great. I'm
going to do that for you in the future.
579
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Is there anything else
that you can tell me more about?
580
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,240
Oh, yeah.
581
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,120
We also did this usually around
Tuesdays at 2:00, and that was perfect.
582
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,680
That worked best for my schedule.
583
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,840
OK, got it.
584
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,440
Tuesdays at 2:00 doing course mapping.
585
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840
We're going to make sure
that all these things are there for you.
586
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,600
Just the that that way
we're not changing anything up.
587
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,200
We're going to keep on rocking and rolling
588
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,200
at the exact same pace
that you had before.
589
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,480
By being able to ask more about this.
590
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,720
You can understand more about their wants,
their needs and their pain points
591
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,480
because you don't know
you don't know what they went through.
592
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,200
You also have no idea
what else are they working on?
593
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,880
Are they working on other projects?
594
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,240
Is this actually something
that's going to be like the cherry on top?
595
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,920
But they already have a million things
to do and now they have one more thing.
596
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Also, by asking more about these
stop provoking questions,
597
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,160
you're going to be able to figure out
if there are any different types
598
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,800
of myths that you can dispel
and get rid of as well.
599
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,480
For some people, once again,
600
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,760
they have never worked
with an instructional designer before,
601
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,920
or perhaps they have never developed
a course or a training or program
602
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,480
or whatever it is, and they have all these
different types of misconceptions.
603
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,640
So you're going to be able to clarify that
604
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,680
and also figure out how they prefer
to work together on a project,
605
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,000
which is actually really interesting,
something I didn't start asking about.
606
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,840
And so one day the light bulb moment
finally went off inside of my head.
607
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,160
And to hopefully prove me,
608
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,520
prove my point, go into the chat for me
very quickly and tell me
609
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,360
when are you most creative during the day,
610
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520
mornings afternoons or evenings
611
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,440
exactly.
612
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280
I'm seeing mornings, I'm
seeing afternoons. I'm seeing it is.
613
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,640
Yeah, exactly.
614
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,080
I'm seeing that all of you have
a different type of preference
615
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,480
and like many of you, mornings
are best for me.
616
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,600
But as you can just see,
someone has put in all caps evenings
617
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680
because evenings works for them.
618
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,320
I get it.
619
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,200
I absolutely understand.
620
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,680
And it's so funny because when we start
working with subject matter experts,
621
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,200
we reflect upon to them
how we prefer to work.
622
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,200
And I started to do this with once me and
I quickly realized they were burning out
623
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,880
and I was like, Wait a minute.
624
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,720
It's like, this is I can see the problem
because the way that we do things,
625
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,000
we are doing things in the morning
to match my schedule.
626
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800
And that is not at all
how she preferred to work.
627
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200
She liked to do things in the afternoons.
628
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,240
And as soon as I figured out that,
I was like, Oh, OK,
629
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,280
your creative juices are flowing for you
in the afternoon
630
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,360
after you had your second cup of coffee,
well then let's do that way instead.
631
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,960
And it's incredibly helpful
to be able to do that.
632
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,160
The next
633
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,920
is the power of branding,
networking and LinkedIn.
634
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360
Now, I know this is kind of silly
but I'm also curious.
635
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,760
Go into the chat for me.
636
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,840
How many of you use LinkedIn?
637
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Give me a yes, give me an hour
638
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,000
I am seeing a billion yeses.
639
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,960
This makes me very, very happy.
640
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,840
I'm so glad to hear.
641
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,640
But I also just saw one comment
that is actually one of the things
642
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,480
I was looking out for as yes,
but I really should be using it more.
643
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800
And that is the thing when it comes to you
644
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,000
and thinking about you
as an instructional designer,
645
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,480
everything that we have seen so far
that people have gone through what people
646
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,160
are transitioning over into their almost
is this kind of identity crisis.
647
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,520
What I mean by that
is that for many people,
648
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600
they worked
at several different organizations.
649
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,000
And during these really crazy times,
especially during the pandemic,
650
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,760
a lot of people were let go of
and they had layoffs and
651
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,080
things of that nature.
652
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,920
And they felt like
they lost their identity
653
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,520
because they worked
at that one organization for so long.
654
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,320
And now all of a sudden they're like,
I don't know who I am.
655
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,320
Like I always worked there. Like, what?
656
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,760
What am I and why would I want to be able
to instill into you
657
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,280
is that you are a designer
And with that being said, you,
658
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,080
my friends, excuse me, you are a living,
breathing, walking brand.
659
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,400
Everything that you do,
everything that you share
660
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,040
for being online,
it represents you as a brand.
661
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,800
It represents your skill set.
662
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,200
It represents everything
that you are passionate about
663
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,520
and that you are driven about.
664
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,680
And why it is
that you want to be able to do.
665
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,280
Now, of course, if you have been
666
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,400
looking at so many of the different job
postings online lately,
667
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,600
one of the things
668
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,320
that has been absolutely shocking to see
and I saw this actually the other day
669
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080
is that there was one job posting
that went up in the morning
670
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,800
and I think it had around 70 applicants,
and then by the evening
671
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,880
it had 300 and LinkedIn
actually shows that I was just like,
672
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,840
OK, it's been 12 hours like what happened
during that 12 hour time frame.
673
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,840
And of course
674
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,400
more and more people are applying
now more than ever to be able to do this.
675
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,520
So the competition is getting fiercer.
676
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,280
So in order to help you,
I want you to absolutely be able
677
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,600
to stand out from the crowd
in your own type of way.
678
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,680
And how you're going to be able to do
that is certainly
679
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,600
if you want to have some form of an online
presence, that is great.
680
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,120
But really what I want you to think about
more of though is what are you great at
681
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960
and how can you further develop
this skill sets?
682
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,880
If you're looking at a bunch of different
job postings online,
683
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,520
you're going to see certainly
some of them, they will call out
684
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,640
everything they are shooting
for that magical unicorn.
685
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,480
They want
the sun and the moon and the stars.
686
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,680
And that's that's really not realistic.
687
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,240
But for some job postings out there,
they're going to specific it all out
688
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:06,200
that they want someone to be able to use
backward design and that's all they use.
689
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,880
Or perhaps for Agile or perhaps all
their focusing on is one or two things.
690
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,040
And if you can really pick up on what
it is that they want you to be able to do,
691
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,320
and you can try to go in
and learn as much as you can and practice
692
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,720
and say these things out loud and walk
people through what it is that most likely
693
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:25,640
they're going to be asking
about for an interview.
694
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,040
That is absolutely going to be incredibly
helpful.
695
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,680
Now, what else do I mean by a brand?
696
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,360
Because if you do have an online presence,
yes, you can absolutely have a website.
697
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,360
If you want to do something
698
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,800
with blog or articles, or a portfolio,
you can absolutely do that.
699
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,760
But you do not need to start your own LLC
or your own business or
700
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,160
anything like that just by using LinkedIn
or just by having your own website.
701
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,120
That is a step in the right direction.
702
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,440
And you can even do something
703
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,400
as simple as becoming the person
who hosts like virtual book clubs.
704
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,920
If your friends and colleagues
and peers start to know you as a person
705
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,040
who was the organizer,
who was the leader among the group,
706
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,360
who can go through these things
and keep people together,
707
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,720
that leadership
skill set is incredibly valuable.
708
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,320
You can also create study groups,
work groups, masterminds,
709
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,400
whatever you want to be able to call them,
anything where you can bring people
710
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,080
together in order for all of you
to have this collective goal
711
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:24,240
of just professionally developing
a little bit better every single day.
712
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:29,280
If you can do that over time,
it is truly going to be incredible.
713
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,360
Now within LinkedIn,
who should you be connecting with?
714
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:37,040
I would argue that from all the people
you should be connecting with,
715
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:41,560
you should be connecting
with other instructional designers.
716
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Now, why?
717
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,600
What is going to happen?
What is going to do?
718
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,480
It's going to change the algorithm
on LinkedIn.
719
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,880
For years I didn't do this.
720
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,920
I added anybody, and it made things super
confusing because I would go on LinkedIn
721
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,800
and see pictures of cats and politics
and I'm like, I don't understand.
722
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Like, what is this like if I was like
a professional development kind of thing?
723
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:05,280
Even instead I started to add other
instructional designers and educators
724
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,320
and teachers and professors
and all of a sudden
725
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,560
I had this wealth of knowledge
where if I just refreshed my feed,
726
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,320
all of a sudden all these things began
to pop up with relevant information.
727
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Staying on top of trends and research
and everything else have been the online
728
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,640
learning world.
729
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:24,920
I'm often asked about how I keep up
with being able
730
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,000
to see
what other people are doing in the field
731
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,520
with other different things of research
and new technology.
732
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,160
All I need to do,
folks, is to go on LinkedIn.
733
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,320
There is nothing else I subscribe to.
734
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,760
I'm not a part of some crazy newsletter.
I don't.
735
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,040
I don't do anything.
736
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,960
All I am doing is learning
from other people
737
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,360
like yourself and seeing in real time
what you are sharing.
738
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,840
And I start to dove on
and deeper and notice
739
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,560
some of those same terms
appearing again and again and again.
740
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,760
So as you were able to do this and connect
with other instructional designers,
741
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,520
the biggest thing
that you are going to notice
742
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,240
is that instructional designers
post instructional design jobs,
743
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,000
which is it makes so much sense
because it's their team
744
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,160
their units, their organization
that's doing the hiring,
745
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,680
and they know about the job posting
before anything else, before anyone else.
746
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,120
So they share about it.
747
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,600
And just to give you an example
and please excuse how awful this looks.
748
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,600
I'm well aware,
but this looks like absolute trash.
749
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,360
But to give you an example
is that I refreshed my feed
750
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,840
and within 2 minutes I scroll down
and I took a screenshot
751
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,560
of every job posting
that I saw within those 2 minutes.
752
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,040
And that is what led to these five
different job postings.
753
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,840
Did I have to look anywhere else? Nope.
754
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,640
It was literally just from the feed
755
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,280
and connecting
756
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,800
with other instructional designers them
and seeing this event again.
757
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Of course, as you start to see these
and as these jobs are being posted,
758
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,680
you are going to have a connection
there works over there.
759
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,200
You're going to have somebody who of
760
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,840
course, is looking for the same thing,
looking for somebody who they know
761
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,080
that they're able to actually say,
Oh, yeah, I know that person.
762
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,160
We talked about this before, or perhaps,
oh yeah, I've seen their postings
763
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,920
I see what they have been sharing.
764
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,400
We definitely think alike
765
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,240
and share a lot of the same types of
thoughts are on instructional design.
766
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,440
That's interesting.
767
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,800
I wonder if they're going to apply
and that's going to start to give you
768
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,240
a much better chance as far as her
being able to actually go and to grow.
769
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Evan, speaking of growing, by the way,
just a really, really, really hit home
770
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,960
on the state of the instructional design
world right now.
771
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,840
Same thing.
772
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,920
I just took a bunch of screenshots quickly
773
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,920
of some of the major names I could see
as far as or who was going to be hiring.
774
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,480
And as you are seeing from Harvard
to Apple to Zoom, Discord,
775
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,840
Amazon, Zillow, and so, so, so many more.
776
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,760
And of course, once again, every time.
777
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,920
But you're going to be looking at that
you can see who works there
778
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,560
and you can use the apply now
with LinkedIn button,
779
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,040
which basically pulls
all of your information from LinkedIn,
780
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,840
shares it with the hiring manager
or the recruiter.
781
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,400
And it makes things so much easier,
especially for all of you
782
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,920
who are submitting resume after resume
cover letter after cover letter.
783
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,080
And you're like,
oh my gosh, it's really a full time job
784
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,720
to try to go and apply for a job
because it is.
785
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,840
And that's certainly what it feels like.
786
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,760
But this also shows the growth
as far as how we are extending
787
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,400
and with all that being said, I'm
not sure if you folks have seen this.
788
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,120
This still absolutely blows my mind.
789
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,200
We have invaded the NFL.
790
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,280
We have invaded the National Football
League,
791
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,960
the Bronco, has hired
an instructional designer.
792
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,240
And actually,
I did some more Googling about this.
793
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,960
And this instructional designer
794
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120
was also a freelance designer
for the Green Bay Packers.
795
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,480
Which is absolutely insane
to think that we have gone into the NFL.
796
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Now, of course, as a hardcore New England
Patriots fan,
797
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,520
it absolutely kills me that I am rooting
for the Denver Broncos this year.
798
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,840
But I want this person to do so well
799
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,960
that every single team is going to hire
other instructional designers.
800
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,240
So I'm cheering for the Broncos.
801
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,560
So let's go Broncos,
I guess. I don't know.
802
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,240
So weird to say, but either way.
803
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,080
So now you're saying,
OK, Luke sounds fantastic.
804
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160
I'm going to use LinkedIn to hire
and connect to other people.
805
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Where do I find these people who work for
these different types of organizations?
806
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,840
Because perhaps you are looking for
somebody who does work at Apple,
807
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,360
Amazon, Google, or whatever it is,
and you just want to learn more from them.
808
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,920
You want to follow along their journey.
809
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,400
You want to see where it is
that they are going to be posting about
810
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,240
how do you find these people once again,
811
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,560
is a little bit different compared to
what might
812
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,240
you might have done before in the past.
813
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:29,520
If you go into the search bar and LinkedIn
814
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,720
and type in the words instructional design
and then click on the button
815
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,120
that says people
and then search, what's going to happen
816
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,640
is that all instructional designers
with their titles on LinkedIn
817
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,600
is going to pop up.
818
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,480
Now if you want to get specific
and if you wanted to find someone I work
819
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,920
at at MIT, we'll use that.
820
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,400
If you say instructional designer
MIT people search,
821
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,800
I guarantee that myself and my colleagues,
we are all going to appear.
822
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,960
This is actually how some people found me
when I worked at other universities
823
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,840
and they wanted to learn more about what
it was like to work at that university.
824
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,440
They had questions.
They weren't really sure.
825
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Is this something I want to be able to do?
826
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Do I want to work in higher ed
827
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,880
and they reached out to me early on,
and this is actually how they found me.
828
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:15,560
And I found it
829
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,160
so astonishing because it's not like
anyone told you what trained you
830
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,320
how to do this, but they all shared
this similar type of thing.
831
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,760
So by all means, you can do this
now if you are trying
832
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,840
to be able to figure out,
So how do I reach out to these people
833
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,800
and have it not be weird?
834
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,080
Because it's definitely a little bit
835
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,160
interesting to do a type of cold outreach,
which I understand about.
836
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,440
Not every person is
837
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,480
is jazzed about messaging a stranger and
hoping for a happy and pleasant response.
838
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,120
But this is an example that you can use
if you want to think about it
839
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,280
from a template
I reached, I was actually able
840
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,640
to receive this from another person,
and this is what they said.
841
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,680
They sent me over this message.
842
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,720
It basically says,
Hey, Luke, hope this reaches you.
843
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,200
Well, I'm sure you've heard this phrase
about ten times this week,
844
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,480
but I hope that you are.
845
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,520
I really appreciate
846
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,680
reading your articles and concept posts
about online learning and management.
847
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,640
If you ever have the time.
848
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,520
I would really appreciate a small ten
to 15 minute window of your time
849
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,880
to connect via Zoom.
850
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,120
As I venture into this online
world of higher ed, I would love to learn
851
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,960
from your experiences.
852
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,160
I just so happen to actually
have ten to 15 minutes that day.
853
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,560
Reached out and said Sure, if you want to
share via Zoom, let's do it.
854
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,920
Happy to share with you why it is that.
855
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,720
I know it was an absolutely awesome,
incredible conversation.
856
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:31,680
Just having basically a virtual coffee
chat and sharing about each other
857
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,560
and just giving some words of wisdom
to hopefully help her out.
858
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,320
And now she's an instructional designer
859
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,440
doing often amazing things
and it's just so cool to be able to see.
860
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Now you can absolutely do this too
by reaching out to other people,
861
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,400
by asking you if they want mind
to have a small ten to 15 minute
862
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,760
window to be able to chat
and you can also absolutely phrase out
863
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,280
as far as is being a coffee chat,
it works quite a shocking bit of time,
864
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,400
so definitely feel free to do that
if they don't respond back to you.
865
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,880
That's also OK.
866
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,760
Not every single person
is going to do that.
867
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,760
But just F.y.i I found this
to be an incredibly easy and effective way
868
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,200
in order to connect with others,
especially on Linked In.
869
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,120
And then the last thing folks
870
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,080
I want to be able to share with you
is the future of instructional design.
871
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,960
And this is kind of funny because
of course before you go into a field
872
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,040
or if you're an entry level
instructional designer inside of a field,
873
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,440
you're probably wondering
where is this going?
874
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,760
Excuse me, where is this actually going?
875
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,160
What or is it three going to be doing?
876
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,560
And the thing is in my hints for you
is that it's already here.
877
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,880
How many of you actually asked
this question about
878
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,680
are you thinking about the future
of instructional design?
879
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,800
Go into a chat once again.
880
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,960
Give me a quick yes. Give me a quick no.
881
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,680
Have you thought about instructional
design in the future before
882
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,160
not shocking at all.
883
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,360
I'm seeing a lot of yes's
because of course we are wondering about
884
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,880
what it is that we are doing
and where it is that we are going.
885
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,600
Also, I saw two but a bunch of you
were just sharing your LinkedIn profiles
886
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,120
as well.
887
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,480
They connect with one another. Absolutely.
888
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,480
Please feel free to do that.
889
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,360
If you want to be able to create your own
connections or your own group absolutely.
890
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,320
Feel free to share your LinkedIn profiles
inside of a chat.
891
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,120
But the thing is, folks,
I would say the future is already here.
892
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,560
Now, what do I mean by this
is that there are certainly obstacles.
893
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,880
There are barriers to be able
to implement, to be able to scale.
894
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,680
Sometimes it's pricing,
sometimes it's a variety of things of why
895
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,440
we haven't actually done things
896
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,480
the way that we're trying
to think about it in the future.
897
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,520
But what I would say
is that really it's already here
898
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,200
and this is what I am currently seeing.
899
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,920
For instance,
if we wanted to have discussions
900
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,680
instead of the same old discussion boards,
901
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,760
why can't we use something
with technology?
902
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,280
Like with the other town?
903
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,400
I type of a platform
904
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,800
that kind of looks like if Zoom
and The Legend of Zelda had a baby,
905
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,320
it would make this as far as for
being a 64 bit type of an avatar world.
906
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,760
But it's all based around proximity,
where the closer that you get to somebody,
907
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,080
the more you can hear them.
908
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,280
And if you're done with the conversation,
you just back up and walk away.
909
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,160
And then again
of course the screen is going away.
910
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,600
You can design and customize
the entire learning
911
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,560
environments, change literally
every single thing that you want to do.
912
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,960
And instead of a tried and true
traditional discussion
913
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,320
boards, you're like, Actually,
914
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,920
we're going to do live discussions
and we're going to have it be in this way.
915
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Or maybe you're like, You know what?
916
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,640
That's actually really cool,
but what about something else?
917
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,080
And for that, I would give you spots.
918
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,600
Now Spot is a first person
or a third person.
919
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,320
You can actually change the view
depending upon what you want.
920
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,720
But I started to host my office hours
this way.
921
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,680
Students would literally come
through this type of 3D glass door
922
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,640
as I was sitting there listening to music,
923
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,520
and there were things on the side of
the wall playing from the YouTube video,
924
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,800
and we would just come and chat and
I would just hang out there for an hour
925
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:55,680
and just wait for people
926
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,000
to come to my office hours
for the courses that I taught.
927
00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:59,760
And of course, every time,
928
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,640
but they came on and they were like,
What is this like?
929
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,720
This is different.
930
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:04,080
I guess.
931
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,280
I know it's kind of cool to be able
to think about this or more like of Here's
932
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,240
your futuristic office hours
kind of thing, but it's actually here
933
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:13,800
in person now.
934
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,800
For many people, turning on their camera
during Zoom is something
935
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,480
that they just absolutely dread.
936
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,920
They're sick and tired of doing it.
937
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,160
And I went, Thousand percent understand
why can't we use more
938
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,680
along the lines of avatars?
939
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,840
Like something like with Ready Player
Me or face rig go into a chat real quick.
940
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Have you seen either of these things
before, Ready Player Me or with face rig
941
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:41,960
getting a lot of it?
942
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,560
Yes, there's a lot of nos as well, too.
943
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,040
So a face rig is so fascinating as well
because it absolutely
944
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,560
ready player me
there's a whole bunch of more you can use,
945
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,920
but they follow along with your mannerisms
and with your movements.
946
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,920
So if you do not want to be on camera
for whatever, there's a variety of reason
947
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,760
for why folks should not be on camera,
which is absolutely OK.
948
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,680
This can be difference.
It still shows that you're
949
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,600
paying attention
it still shows that you're interacting.
950
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,200
But yes, you might look like a 3D version
of yourself or perhaps like a raccoon.
951
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,280
You know, whatever floats your boat,
you can do absolutely anything.
952
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,800
Now, of course, we could be talking about
extended reality.
953
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,800
We have to talk about this as well, too,
because the metaverse is here
954
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,280
and people have already been dabbling
in using it now for over a year.
955
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,760
And this is actually a picture
coming from Facebook's horizon work rooms
956
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,200
when they use the Oculus
957
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,000
and they're wearing those things
inside of their faces.
958
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,000
But this is
959
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,920
something that people are using as far
as for the future with remote working.
960
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Why can't we do this?
961
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,600
We can.
962
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,040
Yes, there are barriers
absolutely possible.
963
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,840
But people are doing about this right now.
964
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,440
For some people,
this is their normal working environments
965
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,200
that when they sign on and they do their
nine to five they are inside
966
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,760
of these types of rooms,
it's not going to be too long.
967
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,880
And so it's very common
968
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,800
that a bunch of folks within one
organization will be wearing Oculus
969
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,840
and that's
what we're going to be conducting things
970
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,920
instead of using Zoom
or perhaps with something similar.
971
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Even the
last thing to be able to share with you,
972
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,640
which I found extremely interesting,
is the concept of learning tracks.
973
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,320
Go into a chat for me real quick.
974
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,600
Have you heard of learning tracks?
975
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,640
Before
976
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:35,880
Interesting.
977
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,200
This one's a mixed, mixed response.
978
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,240
Not so much a resounding yes or no.
979
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,360
I saw that someone asked, Did
we talk about it as pathways?
980
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,240
That's another term as well, too.
981
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,920
But what you are currently seeing,
which is so interesting
982
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,560
when it comes to learning tracks,
983
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,600
is that I started to use this
with one of my courses
984
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,840
because the course was designed to be
a marketing graduate course.
985
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,200
And every single week
986
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,280
when I found out from folks
is that I would always
987
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,320
ask about your interests,
why are you here?
988
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,760
You know, how can I help you?
989
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,520
And I found that there was a split
number of people who came in
990
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,720
because they want to be a marketer
for a team for an organization.
991
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,960
But by far there was another half
who want to become entrepreneurs,
992
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,040
and that's why they were coming in
to learn more about marketing.
993
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,960
Now, this was really interesting
because I thought about it.
994
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,640
I was like, Wait a minute.
995
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,480
Like, could I, in theory, excuse me,
give them the flexibility
996
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,040
to be able to choose what learning path
they want to go down?
997
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,080
Could they actually pick and choose
the entrepreneur path?
998
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,920
Could they pick the marketing path?
999
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,360
And sure enough, they could.
1000
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,000
I can design and take the content,
the activities the assessments,
1001
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,120
and actually put it together
in its own package.
1002
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,680
That would be for an entrepreneur
1003
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,440
pack versus somebody who is going
as far as or being with a team.
1004
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Now, you could even hypothetically change
this as far as we're saying.
1005
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,440
I also want to include an easy medium
1006
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,840
and a hard track
if you so choose to be able to do this.
1007
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Yes, that's going to take time.
1008
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,680
It's going to be difficult
to be able to build and expand out.
1009
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,040
But is this more about thinking
for the future?
1010
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,720
This is a possibility you can actually do.
1011
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,160
And for a lot of you
who are inside the Agile Flow cohort,
1012
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,680
because this is all made
1013
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,600
inside of Edge of flow, by the way,
as the platform that I use to do this,
1014
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,800
you've also probably noticed
that if you're inside
1015
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,880
of the instructional design
principles for course creators, course,
1016
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,240
it is going to be able
to allow you to pick and choose what track
1017
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:32,360
you want to go down.
1018
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,320
As far as where do you want to be
an instructional designer
1019
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,960
and corporate government,
higher ed, K-through-12 or nonprofit?
1020
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,720
And indeed you can pick and choose
what track you want to go down.
1021
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:46,520
And this would unlock unique discussions
pertaining to the different types of tags
1022
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,440
and the different types of tracks
that we created on the back end, it
1023
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,120
gave a sense of flexibility, of freedom,
of a choose your own adventure.
1024
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,120
And this to me is by far where we are
going to be going into the future.
1025
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,040
But also, once again, as a reminder,
this is literally happening right
1026
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,160
here, right now,
1027
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,000
well, folks,
1028
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,680
if you made it with me all the way
until the end, which 130 of you did,
1029
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:15,800
thank you so much for sticking around
for this entire hour
1030
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,760
to hear about the babbling
of instructional design.
1031
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,440
The last two things I'm going to mention
is that if you did enjoy this
1032
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,200
as far as for us,
all of these different types of topics,
1033
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,520
my book is literally called
1034
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,120
the exact same thing What I Wish I Knew
before becoming an instructional designer.
1035
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,640
That goes into many, many,
many more topics.
1036
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,320
I was trying to give you
some of the overall findings
1037
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,440
and some of the most interesting things
from the book.
1038
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,480
But of course,
there are more inside of there.
1039
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:43,640
And the other thing is, if you are curious
more about working with other people
1040
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,040
and collaborating and building
relationships, the subject matter experts,
1041
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:50,120
our course will run as you follow
our academy is actually
1042
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,120
next Wednesday is when the course does
kick off.
1043
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,680
It's a two week course.
1044
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,680
We go through things
as far as where every strategy and tip
1045
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,080
and technique I can throw at you
to make you a better person,
1046
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,000
a better relationship manager
and a better collaborator.
1047
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,880
So if you want to find that,
you can go to Edgar
1048
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,880
Flow Academy and find the link over there
for that course.
1049
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,200
But other than that, folks,
1050
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,920
besides the fact that my voice
is completely given out on me.
1051
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,320
So it's been a super interesting
time trying to do this.
1052
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,000
But besides that, if you have any
and all questions,
1053
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,400
post them inside of a chat
and I am just going to do a rapid fire
1054
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,640
round answer as many questions as I can
while we have a couple of minutes left.
1055
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,840
So please feel free to do that.
1056
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,320
And absolutely, thank all of you.
1057
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,440
I know that
I went through things very quickly,
1058
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,600
but thank you all for attending as well.
1059
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,680
And I see one question
What is the best way for an I.T.
1060
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,200
professional
to showcase his skill set, please?
1061
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,640
Absolutely.
1062
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,280
So fantasy a question if you are thinking.
1063
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,440
So I'm going to be actually interpreting
this as far as for with you
1064
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,480
trying to be able to develop, I'm going to
assume a portfolio is kind of like where
1065
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,000
you want to be able to think about this
for taking this type of question.
1066
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,960
When it comes to a portfolio,
what I am really looking for
1067
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,480
when I am reviewing a whole bunch of them
is that very much
1068
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,840
I want to be able to have somebody
tell me a story
1069
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,880
and walk me through a project piece
by piece and step by step.
1070
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,200
I really want to be able
1071
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,160
to see your design process
and your thoughts and figure out exactly
1072
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,160
what it is that you did, where you did it,
and how you able to do this.
1073
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,840
So to give you a type of an example
let's say that you have a project
1074
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,600
and you are going to be able to talk
about the introduction to the project.
1075
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:46,520
You then are able to clearly define
the problem, what you were trying to solve
1076
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,120
with education and training.
1077
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,000
And then from there
you're going to be talking
1078
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,920
about your research, your analysis.
1079
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,880
How did you know what all this existed?
1080
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,560
What were you trying to be able
to do to figure out a solution
1081
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,440
then from there,
walk me through the design process.
1082
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,840
Walk me through your steps.
1083
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,920
What is it that you actually did?
1084
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,000
How did you make everything,
if you can include anything as far
1085
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,280
as for resources, or guide or video
or for anything else,
1086
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,840
but you want to be able to showcase
and demonstrate all of your skills inside
1087
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,680
of that portfolio, inside of that website,
that is absolutely fantastic.
1088
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,640
And then at the end, talk about
what were your learnings,
1089
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,880
what were your findings,
1090
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,480
what is it that you actually were able
to learn along the way?
1091
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,760
And if you could go back
1092
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,840
and redo this all over again,
give me a little reflection as well.
1093
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,840
What would you do
differently even next time?
1094
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,800
What did you actually learn about every
single step and a very quick 2 seconds.
1095
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,200
That is what I would be looking for
to try to be able to showcase that.
1096
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,960
What do you think is the biggest mistake
people make in presenting themselves
1097
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,200
if they want to move
into instructional design from teaching?
1098
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,840
Fantastic question.
1099
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,400
What I keep on seeing are people focusing
1100
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,120
only on authoring tools I get it.
1101
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,760
The offering tools are a part of a job.
1102
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,240
I understand, but there is so much more
to instructional design.
1103
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,240
What I deeply, deeply care
about is not the fact
1104
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,960
that you made something on camera
and that it's pretty and it looks great.
1105
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,160
Like, OK, great.
1106
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,320
But if you're going to be
an instructional designer,
1107
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,000
think about how I was talking about how
folks are going to be wearing so many hats
1108
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,920
from being the researcher to project
manager, the relationship manager.
1109
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,280
Those are the things
1110
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,840
that we're going to be asking about,
especially to inside of your interview.
1111
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,040
I guarantee it's
going to come up with something.
1112
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,760
Tell me a time
you worked with a very challenging person.
1113
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,200
How did you get around this?
1114
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,560
What is it that you did
1115
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,160
and those types of experience skills
that you have potentially had before
1116
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,360
in the past?
They're definitely going to come up.
1117
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,840
So think about instructional design
from this overall type
1118
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,320
of overarching thinking
of somebody who knows about learning
1119
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,280
relationships, project management,
research and technology.
1120
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,600
That is going to be the key. There
1121
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,040
seeing a lot of thank you
is is the keep on going down thank you.
1122
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,840
Thank you to all as well.
1123
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,560
I never question how do you
as an instructional design intersects.
1124
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,920
Oh, that's so interesting.
I love this question.
1125
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,240
So fun fact.
1126
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,520
A guest is coming on the podcast
who knows quite a bit about UX and she's a
1127
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,720
very special guest because she is my wife
and she is a UX designer for Wayfair.
1128
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,200
And constantly it's so interesting
because like we'll have conversations
1129
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,480
about the design process and what it is
that we did and how we go about things.
1130
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,520
And there is a lot, there's
a lot of overlap when it comes to design.
1131
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,400
It's really interesting actually.
1132
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,840
Even the portfolio steps
that I just mentioned could very well
1133
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,480
transfer over into like a
UX portfolio as well too.
1134
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,960
So it is really fascinating
because this elements of research
1135
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,440
and focusing on, we talk about it
as like the learning experience.
1136
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,840
That's
what we're trying to think about it.
1137
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,160
They're defining it
as the user experience,
1138
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,320
but how is somebody using the product?
1139
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,520
What are they taking away?
1140
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,480
How are they able
to assess their knowledge?
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How are they able to actually go
about with everything?
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And then again, of course,
we need to be able to collect feedback.
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So if we're giving them a prototype,
we need to be able to then binder
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collect that feedback and then apply
those changes into the product
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and keep on doing it again and again
and again until we know for certain
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that we have something so understanding
or learning more about human behavior
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and how they are using that product.
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Absolutely.
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An overlap between UX
and instructional design
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and absolutely stay tuned for that episode
because she can explain it
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a million times better than I ever again.
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Uh, going down.
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Look, if you don't mind,
what was your first portfolio piece
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that got you hired
for an instructional design role?
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This is actually kind of interesting
so I actually made online
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learning communities
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for a university at the time
it was for roughly about 60,000 students
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or so, and I talked about
how I built a community
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around that, and I showcased that
because I had screenshots,
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I was able to obtain permission.
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I obviously blocked out privacy for names
and people and,
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and all those things like that.
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But I showed how I built the website,
how I built the community,
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how I kept it going,
how we included and increase retention
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rates time over time again to make sure
that that was going to be working
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and that was what I used
my very first portfolio piece.
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And eventually I took that
and I moved on to Northeastern University,
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and that's
where I started to really dove on.
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And even further
into instructional design,
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how can I find some of my portfolio
projects?
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You are going to be surprised
about the fact
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that you can actually reach out to quite
a few people to be able to help you.
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My last YouTube video actually describes
about how some of the people
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that I reach out to in particular
are actually entrepreneurs now.
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With that being said, of course,
I want to make sure that you aren't
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just constantly working for free
and that you're working for a for profit.
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That can definitely get kind of sticky.
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But for some people out there, for
entrepreneurs, who are in the nonprofit
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section or are just starting from scratch
and they need help,
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they are very interesting to work with
because entrepreneurs
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are subject matter experts
and you can actually learn from them.
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Or of course,
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if you don't want to do that, reach out
to entrepreneurs, even other teachers,
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you know,
but content like the back of your hand,
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if you are going to be designing someone's
online course for them, how that person
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be your subject matter expert
and then in return
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you can be their subject matter expert
to understand that perspective
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as well and know about the shoes
from both sides of the story.
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Is there any keyword banks
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that we can use in our resume
that screams instructional design yes.
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But also the other thing
that I keep on seeing a lot of people do
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is that they just do like a brain dump
of every single instruction
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no design word ever.
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And it's like, Oh,
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how do you actually know
about every single thing you just said?
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Because sometimes you're reading that
and you're like,
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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,840
I don't think you meant the word
that you actually meant
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because people are
including every single thing.
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So is there an overall word bank?
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01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,600
I'm sure if you just Googled
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instructional design, glossary terms,
something like that, a bunch will pop up.
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But once again, I would be very hesitant
to be able to say about if,
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you know, for some,
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you know, there are absolutely going
to be instructional design words
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like with on by words.
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I also mean acronyms for ATI, Sam Ubd,
those things are definitely going
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to pop up in a course subject
matter expert a.k.a SMEs.
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Those are some of the jargons
that we definitely use
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that's beginning
to steal that nearly 50 years old.
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No problem there.
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01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,760
You can absolutely transition on over,
especially with your past experience.
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Whatever you have done,
there are definitely elements
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01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,680
you can take away from every job
and be able to try to repurpose
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01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,600
that and talk more about it
from an instructional design space.
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01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,280
So whether you are a teacher or coming
from customer supports or whatever it is,
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there is always something
that you can try to be able to do
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and to take away from that.
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The biggest thing which talking about
and going back to a lot of those other
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different types of questions
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01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,200
is really trying to be able to gain
that type of experience
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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,120
with working with other people.
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01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,000
So once again, if you do want to be able
to volunteer, if a friend,
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a colleague
a coworker and is try to be able to see
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01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,840
and understand the process
about how actually do you make a course.
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01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,040
And one of the things that I would
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recommend is a concept
that is known as backward design.
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01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,280
Many educators use backward design.
1228
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,880
It is a very simple, relatively easy
method to be able to use.
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01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,120
If you do that.
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01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,240
And once again,
you can just Google backward design.
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I have a course on backwards
design as well, but also you can just
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Google backward design
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that's going to give you a lease,
a blueprint for you to be able to follow
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01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,920
and that will help you to see some of
those steps a little bit more
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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,880
All right, Nick, thank you so much.
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We're at time.
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I know.
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01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,160
It's like I'm trying too far away
as many as I can.
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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,680
We're still like 47 messages.
I think I got them all.
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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,480
Maybe all the questions. That's awesome.
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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,120
We have like 60 seconds if anyone wants
to ask like one more question, but
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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,120
this is amazing.
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01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,440
And I put the link in for Luke's
course on Andrew Flow Academy.
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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,640
It starts June 15th,
so feel free to check that out as well.
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01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,920
As Luke's book What I Wish I Knew before
Becoming an Instructional Designer.
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01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,440
And yes, feel free to save the chat
if you wish you had been able
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01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,200
to click on everyone's LinkedIn.
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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,040
But you were busy listening
in, it's the three
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dots, then click more
and then you click Save Chat.
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01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,320
So we'll give you a moment to do that
before we close out.
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01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,120
But thank you so much for coming.
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01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,560
Appreciate it, everyone.
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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,560
And I hope you have a wonderful day
wherever you're at.
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01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,720
Absolutely. Thank you, folks.
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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,800
Really appreciate all of you attending
and staying all the way to the end.
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01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,040
Absolutely. Awesome.
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01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,280
And I look forward to hearing more
from all of you in the future.
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01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:33,240
If you'd
1259
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,880
like to wave and say goodbye out
loud, feel free.
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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,640
It's fun.
1261
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:39,680
So long.
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01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,720
I thank you. Take care, folks.
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01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,920
Thanks so much.
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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,440
Thank you. Bye.
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01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,600
Thank you.
1266
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,320
Hi. Thank you.
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01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:55,760
All right.
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01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,520
I'm going to close out our Zoom.
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I hope everyone has a wonderful day by.
